EP 37 | Nancy Speaks on the Fear of Being ‘Too Much’ in a Not-So-Accepting Culture

In this vulnerable episode, Nancy opens up about the silent fear many queer people carry—the fear of being “too much.” Too loud. Too proud. Too different. She reflects on what it was like growing up in a Hispanic household where queerness was something unspoken, something that had to be softened, hidden, or denied.

From code-switching to protect herself to shrinking her love just to keep the peace, Nancy shares her journey of unlearning cultural shame and finally reclaiming her full, radiant self.

If you’ve ever felt like you had to dim your light to be accepted… this one’s for you. 

Transcript

EP 37 | Nancy Speaks on the Fear of Being ‘Too Much’ in a NotSo-Accepting Culture
Hey guys! Welcome to the Deep Dive In podcast with Nancy and Brenda. And we're back, baby. Did I
do it good? You did. You did. That was great. I even tried to change the pitch of my voice. I tried to
sound like me. Yeah. Oh. That's hilarious. Hello. That was great. Well, here we are, world. Mhm. Oh my
God. Hi. And we are. I had to say. Oh my God. All right. I'm so excited to do this episode honestly. So
me too I'm excited to hear what you have in store. No idea. So Brenda asked me today like oh, what do
we want to talk about today? Mhm. And I'm like, you know what. What's been on my mind to talk about
is like girl like being gay. Mhm. Yeah. I don't know why I feel to talk about why I feel to talk about it.
We have, we've had other episodes where we talked about like how we came out or whatever. Yeah. I
really want to dive deep though into like our experiences with our sexuality. Yeah. Um, and, and going
in-depth into it. Not just like. Anything that you, for example, have experienced in the time that you've
been out with me or whatever, if anything or any, any way that you feel is different than, you know,
being in a heterosexual relationship. Mhm. The the biggest reason though I feel, is just to educate people
on maybe educate is not the right word. Yeah. Just to share because I feel like there's still a lot of, like
there's a lot going on in the world right now with like, you know, transgender like discrimination in a
bigger scale, like right. The government and like there's you hear news, you basically hear news of
discrimination and like all of these things. And it's crazy to me. Yeah. Because it's like there's so many
more important things. Mhm. And here we are like still discriminating against somebody that was born in
a different body. And that's just the way they feel. Yeah. You know. Yeah. And I definitely I I've
encountered. I encountered a lot of, um, had different things in in being gay, in coming out and living,
you know, and looking the way I look. Yeah. Can you actually share, uh, like, how it was for you back
then, like a few years back? So, like, okay, so when I came, when I came out, obviously, like in the
beginning of, like, me coming out and actually having a girlfriend and stuff, like, I look girly, I look
girly, and I had long hair. I would wear makeup sometimes, like I would dress up, I would wear dresses,
um, and I would choose pictures and stuff. Oh yeah. Which is what people call femme presenting. Yeah.
So you look like a girl. Whatever. You're femme presenting and you're you're essentially like, you're
girly, right? I'm. I'm just trying to teach you the lingo, guys. Yeah. And so, um, after a few years, I feel
that. Like I. So when I moved to Arizona, I decided to cut my hair. Mhm. And I don't know if I've shared
this before, but I decided to cut my hair because I felt like I wanted to change. Mhm. And I felt like the
way I dress and the way I looked like my hair just didn't go along with it. And I didn't cut my hair before
because I felt like I couldn't. Because of, because. Well because I just didn't want to feel like I. I feel like
my hair was. It's crazy to say, but I feel like my hair was still showing people that I was a girl. Mhm. So
they won't get uncomfortable. Oh okay. And like people around me. Yeah. And I didn't want to make
them feel uncomfortable. So therefore like I didn't cut my hair. Right, right. But I just decided to I was
away from everybody that like, cared, I guess. So I just decided to. But, you know, it's crazy because
living in Arizona, there's obviously the population there is like mostly white. Like, um, older white
people in the areas that I was in that I lived in. And unfortunately, like you do, get stares. Mhm. You
know, you do people look at you a certain way. Like. They don't know. Like what you are. Yeah, even
though that's ridiculous to say. Because I'm a human. Yeah. Like, it doesn't matter how I'm dressed or
how I look. Like I'm still human being. Right? But you still get those looks. But anyway. So yeah, like, I
was starting off in, in coming out or whatever, like publicly I, I was I stick to I stuck to looking like a girl
because I also didn't know like I didn't know really. Like what how I wanted to look. I didn't know for
myself. Like there's, you know, people that are saying like, this is just a phase. Yeah. You're like,
whatever, right? Right. And I didn't really I didn't really like believed it was just a fake. Like, I, I truly
felt like, oh, this is who I like. This is who I am. Yeah. Like this is a part of me, not who I am, but this is
a part of me. Um, I'm attracted to women and that's that's who. That's who I am. Mhm. As far as the look
though, like it was very it was very hard for me. Um, it was very hard for me to. Um, to kind of figure
out how I want it to look. And unfortunately, at the time I went. Based off of, like, what other people
wanted me to look like. Oh, and like, for example, like when I was. I don't know, I just went based off of,
like, how I, how other people wanted me to look. And I feel like that was the majority of my like 20s, for
example. Like, I was just so you felt like you had to be in like a in a for a type of like, people pleasing.
Um, while you were discovering this new version of you, in a sense. Yeah. Yeah. And I think a lot of
people feel that way. Like, you know, personally, you start trying to figure out, like, who you are. You're
obviously not like everybody else and everybody that you're hanging around with. So I feel like people
go through this stage of like, well, is this just a phase? Is it not a phase like whatever. You know. I mean,
that's just a portion of the things that you're going through. Yeah. Right. But it's a big thing as far as your
identity. It's a huge thing. Yeah. Yeah. I remember when I came out to my family, my mom was like, I.
She didn't tell me. She told my sister that it was just a phase. And she actually told me like, oh, um, what
my mom did tell me directly was maybe you should go see a psychologist. Oh. Right. Because they do
think like it is just a phase that we're going through or like that. It's not really who we are. Yeah, but they
don't realize that in doing that, they're really, like, just dismissing and and not validating us. Right. And
um, and I think like a lot of people, this is my personal thought on like our whole and I'm going to say
community for lack of better terms. Right. So LGBTQ is a plus, right? And it's like we are in this world
to show people a different, like a different perspective of life. How you said at the beginning, I'm just a
human. Yeah. You know, like at the end of the day, we're just a human, right? We just categorize
humans. We've categorized everything. Yeah. You know, like, we we put names on everything. Yeah. So
unfortunately, like, people have different perspectives and different views and different beliefs. And it's
not to say anyone is like insignificant or less significant than other people, depending on what you're
attracted to. Right? I feel like that's just the least of anybody's worries. Yeah. What anybody's attracted
to, you know? Like, it's the least of anybody's worries. And it should be, at least. But it's the biggest, I
guess. Yeah. You know, it really is. Yeah, it feels like it is. It feels like. It's like. Oh, all of a sudden, you
know, it's like this big ordeal. Yeah. And I don't feel like it should be a big ordeal and like to your point,
like, yeah, if you have family members that are telling you it's just a phase or you should go see a
psychologist or whatever, like they're literally like dismissing. Yeah, who you are. Yeah. No matter what.
Yeah. Because it, it it pretty much is I feel like it's kind of the same. I mean, in a way it's kind of the
same of like what you want to be as a career person, like is or is my family going to love me less if I'm
not a doctor? Yeah. Or if I'm not successful. And in some cultures I think that is a thing. Well, that's
honestly like how it is. Yeah. My family does love me. Love me less? Yeah. Just. Just kidding. Wait, but
let's talk about that. Okay. So do you feel like. Like, for example, I feel like my mom still has a hard time
telling people that I have a girlfriend. Yeah. You know. Sure. And, um. But, like, for you and your
family, are you the only gay one? Uh, yeah. The only out like that. Out? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, okay.
On my. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the only one out. Yeah. Okay. The one that's, um. That was it. Yeah. Yeah.
That. I'm that cousin. Yeah. I'm the only one. And, you know, like, it's different. Like it's different. For
me, it was different with my mom's side of the family than it was with my dad's side of the family. But
again, everybody has their own beliefs and their own perspectives. Right. Mhm. I just the thing is that or
the point I want to bring across here is really like the insignificance of it. Mhm. Like I don't feel it should
be this big Ole thing. Yeah. And it is a big Ole thing because our society has been constructed and, and
put into play where there's a man and there's a woman and that's the only way to live. Yeah. And it's like,
well, no. And honestly, like, there's different stories of even men back then that were gay. They just
didn't. They were. It was a hidden. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like even women that were gay and it was just
hidden. Right. But we just put so much emphasis on. Transgender gays, lesbians, whatever. Where? I feel
like there shouldn't be. And I don't know if that's me. Just like knocking who I am, but, like, I don't feel
like I don't feel like it should be like, for example, I personally never really like I never really was like,
oh, rainbow, you know, like, I wasn't that gay. That gay. I wasn't like, well, I hate to say it, but it is what
it is. Yeah. Like, it it wasn't me to have like rainbow flag and a rainbow this and a rainbow that, you
know. Right. And I honestly don't know if I that subconsciously I did that also just to like please other
people that didn't want me to be gay. Oh, so they wouldn't feel weird and they wouldn't feel weird.
Maybe I just, you know, went along with not being that gay, but like, I never really, you know, care. I
mean, I went to gay parades and stuff like that, but just because it was fun. Yeah. But as far as, like,
advocating and, like, stuff like that, Like I was never really intrigued to be any a part of that. Like I
wanted to live my life as normal as possible. Quote unquote, to kind of comply with society in that
manner. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. And so but that's the thing that at the same time, like I was
just living like it was in a big deal. Like I wasn't going to be loud of my gayness. Yeah. But again, I don't
know if I was just being complicit. And I was essentially just, you know, quieting or belittling me myself
to not make people around me uncomfortable. Yeah. And I honestly think that as saying this out loud,
like, I, I think that was the case. Yeah. I was gonna say it sounds like that is what was going on. Yeah.
Because there is a lot there is there's a lot of judgment in my life. Like, there is a lot of judgment. And it's
crazy to think, but like, it's it's sucked because, you know. Like it feels like nobody ever took you serious
as a person. Really? Yeah. Overall, like, work in everything. I mean, in in. No. Mostly in relationship.
Oh, okay. You know, like, in being in a partnership. Like. Like you and I. Right. Okay. Like you and I,
for example. Yeah. Your mom thinks it's a phase. Yeah. Your mom doesn't have. Your mom still feels
like some type of way to even present me as your girlfriend. Maybe. Huh? That feels. That sucks. Yeah.
You know, so that's the judgment. Like. Mhm. So that's what I mean. Like they don't it. It's not taken
seriously. Mhm. So like to me your mom doesn't take me serious. Got it. She's amazing. Yeah. She's a
awesome to me and stuff. But because of those things like I feel like she doesn't take our relationship
serious. Oh okay. And that's been the case all of my life. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. And I.
And I can understand how it can feel that way. And I hear that. But I know it happens. I know it happens
in the like. I know it happens a lot. Especially in our in our culture. Right. You know. I mean, I mean,
maybe in other cultures as well. But speaking for our culture, the Hispanic culture, like, yeah, they're
going to be nice because we're made to like, we're raised to be nice and accept people. Yeah, whatever.
But not really. We're you fucking judgmental. You judge everybody. So yeah, we're going to be nice and
we're going to be nice to your face. But then, you know, we're still going to say like, oh, I don't know.
Like this is just a phase. I don't know what's going on. Maybe, you know, and and I feel that because I
feel like I'm in a at least a women and women In relationship. Yeah. I feel like, um, because, like, for
example, like me as your partner. Like, because of the societal constructs, they feel that a male needs to
take care of the female. Right. Right. And so, like, I, I feel that, too, like the minnows. Because I'm a
girlfriend to you and, like, what am I going to do to provide for you for their daughter? Right. Yeah.
Like, who's going to provide for you? Yeah. If you don't have a man next to you. Exactly. Yeah. But you
okay? I would just say this. Nancy has done more and provided more than any male I have ever been
with. Like I had to say. Yeah, I need to clear the air there because it doesn't matter. Like whether you're a
girl or guy. Like, it doesn't matter in the relationship or in partnership or whatever. It just doesn't matter.
Yeah. I just feel like. Unfortunately, that's still the case. Yeah. Even in present day, uh, that is still the
case. Wow. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. Uh. Uh, this is me just releasing my frustration. Yeah. So it sucks,
you know, because even though it shouldn't matter. Yeah. It. Even though it shouldn't matter, um, what
other people think. Like to me, obviously like it it thinking about it like, I'm like, oh, it shouldn't matter
what her mom thinks. Yeah. You know, she doesn't know. She grew up a different way. She has other
beliefs or whatever. But then it's like, well, it does matter. Mhm. Why does it matter? Well, because she's
your mom. Like I feel like in I feel at the end of the day I mean that's the thing though. Like you, you get
it's like this battle of whether you should or shouldn't matter at the end of the day. Does it matter if we're
both happy. Right. Mhm. But. I don't. I guess what I'm trying to say here is that at some point I would
like it to be accepted. Mhm. You know. Yeah. Like like estas la novia de mija. Yeah. Like this. Is that.
Yes. Yeah. Like. Yeah. That. It is. What it like. That's what it is. Mhm. But it is, it is what it is I guess.
Well I disagree with that. It is what it is. I mean yeah. Actually currently. Yes it is what it is. Yeah.
Currently. Right now in this moment, that is what it is. Um, and I think that going back to how you were
talking about how you personally were never loud about your queerness, your gayness. Yeah. Right. I
think it actually goes back to that. I think that is why the, the community of, um, of queers, of gayness, of
all of the people, like, I think that is why they are so loud because like, how I see it at least, is being loud
is the only way that they could, most of the time make their point of cross of like accepting me. And this
is who I am. And I think, um, that that is the only way that the parents in our relationship. In a
relationship. Right. So like each of our parents or whoever. Um, the only way that. That we receive that
respect is by continuing to be ourselves, loud and proud of it. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. That's true. Yeah, I
agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Because I mean, I, I, I know that I know that this is across the board, you
know, like I know that there's other family members, for example, that we know are gay and they are not
able to say anything. And they, you know, pull away from the family because it's not accepted. Yeah.
And it's crazy to me. Um, and I luckily, like, I feel lucky enough that I was able to accept myself to some
degree. Mhm. Um, to be able to, like, go through life, like be in front of my family and be like, I'm gay,
like, I don't care whatever. Like, like it or not, like this is who I am. Yeah. To some degree, um, that's
only some degree. Well, what do you mean? So because, like, right now, when I see you, for example,
like with your family, like, I feel like you're pretty open, like. Yeah, pretty out there. Yeah, that's what
I'm saying. Like, I'm pretty open. I'm pretty out there. But I'm not going to put like, a rainbow flag in
front of my face. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. Like, my family, I feel like, has already accepted me for who I
am. Yeah. Um, but I'm also not, like, pushing the envelope. Yeah. I'm not like, let's go advocate for
LGBTQ. Like, I'm not doing that. Yeah. And I feel if I would to do that and like, let's just say I become
an advocate or something and like, that's my life, then I feel it would be pushing the envelope for them.
Uh, for some of them, not all of them, but it sucks because like I said, two of this to this day, like, I.
Yeah, I would think that we accepted and we like, you know, but it's that it's still not the case. Yeah.
There's situations that are still not talked about. There's situations where like. People or even younger
kids, I feel. I feel like even younger kids, like teenage kids and stuff that are. Coming to, um,
understanding or coming to, like. Realization. Like, oh, I'm attracted to both. Or, you know, um, and now
there's like different pronouns like they them um, um, and it like, I don't, I don't understand, I don't
understand that. I don't understand that they them because I really haven't looked into it, you know. But
I'm still going to respect somebody. Yeah. If they tell me like, oh I go by they them. Yeah. Then I'm still
going to respect it. Yeah. I don't care like what it is or who you are. Right. If you tell me that you want
me to call you something, I'm gonna do that. Um, if you want me to. You don't see you like, however you
want to be seen. I'm going to do that because you. I'm. You're a human, and you're like, that's it. Yeah.
And they're that's literally just like human decency. Yeah. Which we do not have a lot of nowadays.
Yeah. Like we don't have respect for kids anymore. No. Because even our kids are telling us like, hey,
I'm, you know, I go by these pronouns. Yeah. And it's dismissed. Yeah. And it's like, no, I'm going to call
you what I named you from birth. Exactly. Like, what do you mean, like. Yeah. Why not? Why not
support that person, right? I used to have a hard time with that. Um, there was a time where I also didn't
understand the de them concept. Like when pronouns were becoming a thing. Like I didn't understand it
and now I understand it because I think now I'm like, oh. Like I like, honestly, I'm like, I could be a they
them because I see this is how I see relationship. I'm literally in partnership with your soul, with your
being, not your human costume. Right. And um, and so I feel like somebody who doesn't relate to being
female or male, like they're just a human body. Yeah, that is like that to me. I'm like, oh, yeah. Like I'm
they them. Because to me, like, that's the human body. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just a human body that fell
in love with another human body. I see your soul for what it is. You see my soul for what it is, and that's
that. So it's not falling in love with the human body. It's falling in love with the soul. With the soul. It's
the soul level. Yeah. I mean, that's how it is. Yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe that's how I understand it. And,
um, I mean, that makes sense to me. Yeah. And I feel like that's where people have that, that
programming still of it has to be male and female. Yeah, right. But no, bro, like you literally there are
women out there that fall in love with other women and they call them their best friend. Yeah. And they,
like, neglect the whole fact that, oh, maybe I'm in love with this person. Like, on another level, you
know? Um, and so, like, I, I don't know, I think it's a, it's a whole thing. It's a whole it is a whole thing.
But I that's the thing that I, it shouldn't be a whole thing. No, but it is because of our programming and
like, um, like our society and the way that we view things. I mean, even to this day, you have like a
government saying, like debunking, even acknowledging that there is other than male or female as a
gender, like like it's crazy to me. Like that's part of your conversation in control of this world. Like of
this, of this nation is like, oh, the the first thing we're going to do is you can only be male or female.
Yeah. And it's I it's interesting to me that that's the case. Like it's it's interesting to me that for some
reason in our society. It's still a thing. Mhm. You know like the forces to be um really want it to be man
and woman. And you can only marry man and woman together. Only man and woman could be. Yeah.
And maybe that's why there's been, um, there hasn't been an advancement in our culture because our
culture is very, like, prone to listen to the news and listen to what the government is saying and follows
the government order. Yes. Because they don't want to be kicked out even though they have their US
citizens. Yeah. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. Like, I'm pretty sure there's a lot of Mexican or Hispanic culture
that have their US citizenship for years, and they still follow what the government says because they
don't want to be deported. Taken away. Yeah. Even though they have, you know, their citizenship,
they're they they're a citizen of the United States. But because of that, they still follow what the
government is saying. Mhm. And I feel like, um, it seems to me like that's one of the reasons why there
hasn't been any advancement in our culture is because we go based off of. Oh, well, if the government is
saying, like only a man and a woman could get married, like, what are you going to do? Yeah. Like I
remember when the whole like, um, women get like gay gay rights or equal marriage, uh, came out like.
Oh, and then they took it away. Mhm. I think or they said they were. Yeah. I don't know if they did
though. They, I think they did. I'm not sure. Actually don't quote me on that. But like when that was
going on like that to me was like crazy because it's like why is this such a big deal. Yeah. You know, if
somebody wants to marry somebody, it's awkward legality reasons anyway. Yeah. You probably win.
Like you're not. Yeah. Like you're not going to lose anything as a country. Yeah. To have two people
getting married, like, um, but it's it's the ideal. Like the forces to be are still for some reason, wanting to
stay in this. I don't know I don't know what to call it like in this frame, um, the paradigm of a woman and
a man being together, for whatever reasons. I think it's just like this. Tribe of humans is bringing to this
planet transgender, gay, queer, lesbian, bi, all of the things, right? I think it's it's, um, it brings to light a
lot of people's, like, shadows, a lot of discomfort. Yeah, a lot of their own shit that they can't handle
because they don't know how to handle. And so then they lash out at our community. Yeah, right. And
they're like, oh my God, look at that man. And how he's dressing like he's wearing a skirt. Like, bro, are
you like, is there something about your self-expression that you're dealing with that you didn't even
know? And that's why you're lashing out at this person, right? Like, I feel like these people are being
brought into the planet, like, from birth to be like, nope, here I am. And go deal with your shit. Yeah,
right. And that is, I feel where we're at is like this. How you're saying the forces that be are like trying to,
like, push it down so that it doesn't, like, shine bright and come to light. Right? Because I feel like, uh,
we are so powerful in truly shining how we are and who we are. Yeah, that these, like, you know, darker
energies and darker forces are like, no way, Jose. Like we're not. Yeah. We're not. Yeah. We're gonna
continue fighting. We're gonna continue fighting until you guys give up. Yeah. Until we win. Yeah. And
you become straight again. Exactly. Uh, yeah. Um. Like how? Like that. It doesn't even. It doesn't even
make sense. I mean, there's just so many other important things, you know, than. Like who? And that this
was crazy. The crazy part to me is that there is so many important things, but, like, it's still a thing. It's
still a big thing. Like, um. You try not to see or you try to, like, dismiss it. For example, like me, like I
tried, I don't know, I don't know if I do, I still do this subconsciously, but when I look at the news or see
new stuff that comes my way in regards to like, you know, the government, like the whole transgender,
for example, I try to dismiss it because I'm like, oh, I can't do anything about it. Mhm. Um, but I know it
shouldn't be that way. You know, like it shouldn't just be dismissed because it's honestly like people
hurting. Yeah. Like there's a human being that's hurting like no matter what they decide. Like it's because
people think that's fucking easy. Yeah. You know, my life would have been a lot easier being straight.
Mhm. It would have been a lot easier. I probably wouldn't have had like to deal with all of this shit.
Yeah. And you think everybody thinks like oh it's a choice or whatever. Like it's not a fucking choice
bro. Yeah. Like you're born this way. Like you're born with whatever your fucking chromosomes or your
DNA, whatever. It's whatever it is. Um, that essentially. I mean, honestly, I don't think it's any of that.
Like, you were just born who you were, and that's it. And that's the thing. Like, people think like, oh, it's
a choice or whatever, like. If it was difficult for me. Um, it just, you know, because of the way I look.
And I was still woman, but, like, look as a guy or look like a guy. Yeah. Um, and still, you know, get
confused when I or still or people still get confused when I go into the girls restroom. Yeah. Um, uh, like,
I can't imagine how a person that's going through a transition feels. Yeah. You know that much that must
feel ten times like, I don't know, like I can't imagine. Yeah. We can't. I can't imagine like, somebody that
is not comfortable in their body. Mhm. To be like like wanting to get out of their body. Yeah. Like there's
some people right now that feel disconnected from their body. Yeah. And they refer as she her in a
female body. Yeah. But now imagine somebody who is in a male body and they identify as she her like
the amount of disconnection that they have, the emotional like aspect behind things like I can't even
imagine, like I was disconnected from my body once, but I can't even imagine, like. The depth, the
gravity of like, right. What they're feeling. Yeah. Because you you because you were able to connect like
you. Yeah. You were able to connect back because you like essentially you were you felt you were right
in the body, but you were just disconnected for whatever traumas or whatever events happened in your
life. Yeah. Like, this person is not because of trauma. It's because they were just born in the wrong body.
Yeah. Yeah. Like. Yeah. Yeah. There's so, like, I can't imagine going through that. You know, I feel like.
I feel like. I mean, it doesn't amount to to the pain it must feel or not to be accepted by your family and
by people around you sometimes, but also not be accepted where? Where you live. Yeah. And it's and it's
like you're being perpetrated more so than somebody that was accused of rape. Yes. Yeah. Or somebody
that was convicted of rape. Yeah. Which happens to be our president of the United States. But. Like it's
crazy to me. Like, it's so crazy to me. And I'm sorry. Like, I, I hate to be political or all of these things,
but, like, it's too much. Yeah, it's just too much for. For us not to say something. Yeah. Um, and that's
something that's been on my heart, like talking about this subject, because, like, we just have to wake up
to we have to wake up from this social constraint that they have us in. Mhm. Mhm. The people in power
have us in this trap. Yeah. And we need to wake the fuck up. That goes way back. Yes. It goes way. And
it's not only about being gay or whatever. It's about the whole thing. Yeah. It's about how they from five
years old, they want us to start kindergarten, and they want us to fuckin go to school, and they start
training us to have a fucking job and be their little, um, fucking slaves. Yeah. At that time, it was. They
needed factory workers. Yeah. Training people in the schools to be factory workers? Yes, but now we're
not in that. Now it's the regular 9 to 5 corporate job, guys. Yeah. Um, and I'm pretty sure like, they're
trying to figure out a way on how to control people that are wanting to be entrepreneurs, or they're in the
entrepreneur spectrum because, um, that's where we're headed. Yeah, a bunch of people are waking up.
Yeah. Like, oh, I should go do what I love, you know? Right. Like, yes, you should. You should go do
what you love. But I'm just saying, like, there's there's just more to it, obviously. Like the whole gay.
And, and, um, the goal that that subject is obviously just like ministry to everything that is going on. But
I feel like it's a big thing because it's literally just like human decency. Yeah. And if you have somebody
in your family and you have somebody around you or family like friends or whatever, you know, um,
that, you know, are gay or you know, that are or you know, that something that they want to be seen as
something else. They give them their respect. Yeah. Like, don't be ignorant and be like, well, I'm just
going to call you this because that's what I named you. Yeah. No. Have respect. Have respect. Like, what
if it was you? Yeah. What if it was you? And what have you? Were born in a different body. Like what if
it was you going through the same situation? Wouldn't you want somebody to give you respect? Mhm.
Like, just give people respect. Yeah. No matter how they look, no matter what they are and how they
portray themselves. The least you can do in this world right now is give people respect. Yeah. Is to be
kind. Respect. Love. That's the least you could do. Once again, guys, thank you for listening. If you gain
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