EP 40 | Money, Money, Money, how do we get more?!

Let’s be honest—most of us say we want more money… but are we actually open to receiving it? 👀

In this episode, we’re diving headfirst into the world of money programming—those sneaky subconscious beliefs that quietly tell us we’re not worthy, not capable, or not “ready” to have more. Brenda and Nancz get real about how those old money stories were blocking the bag, and how they’re actively rewriting those scripts through nervous system regulation, affirmations, and somatic healing.

Brenda shares how she realized she wasn’t fully owning her business—and underneath that was a belief that she wasn’t worthy of big money moves. Once she saw it, she decided to do something about it. Healing her money wounds became a daily practice. Because let’s be real: your nervous system has to feel safe receiving more, or you’ll just keep pushing it away.

If you're feeling stuck around money, this episode will help you start peeling back the layers of why—and give you tools to start inviting in more with ease and alignment. As always though, reach out to us to receive deeper wisdom or guidance on these money blocks. We are actively working through it and are open and willing to share our journey. 

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EP 40 | Money, Money, Money, how do we get more?!

Hey guys! Welcome to the Deep Dive In podcast with Nancy and Brenda. And we are back, baby. Deep diving. Hey, guys. I always want to have like, I always want to say the intro. Yeah, but I know we have like a intro set already. Oh, but I mean, I guess you could do it live. Um, but I always want to be like, thank you so much for tuning in to Deep Dive. So what is up, my guy? You know, a lot has been up. A lot has been up. Yeah. Oh my God. I feel like I feel like, um, I saw somebody post something on Instagram that says, like, life has been lifelong. Mhm. And I don't know when we came up with that term or how, but I'm relating to it. It makes sense. Life has been life in. Yeah. Whatever that means to you. Yeah. To me it just means, like, a lot of things have happened and a lot of growth has occurred because of those things. Yeah, a lot of transformation for sure. I think in this like big old transformation that we're doing in our lives right now. Mhm. Um, I know the biggest thing and this is what we want to talk about today. The biggest thing that has been, uh, I, I hate to say the word challenging, but I'm easy uneasy. Yeah. Yeah. Where's my thesaurus? Yeah. Um, one of the things that, like. Like it's money. Yeah. Money is the hardest. I feel because our society and our life and anything that you go through in life, for the most part, has to do with your. How much money you have or something. Yeah. Like, it's it's a huge thing and you don't people don't like I don't know if like I, I didn't think about this. I don't think as much as I have recently in the, um. And going through this transformation of like how, um, our relationship to money. Our relationship to money and the energy and the amount of, like, uh, distress or stress that even money puts on people. Yeah. And I and I and in going through this transformation or this transition in our lives and trying to, um, you know, do our own thing and do our own business and get out of the matrix, if you will. Um, I hate to say that sometimes because a lot of people, I feel, think it's like a conspiracy. Yeah. Like, if you're a conspiracy theorist and they're like, oh, you believe that we're in a matrix, blah, blah blah. But yes, I believe we're in a matrix. I believe we're in a simulation. And, um, or at least something that has been created. Right. And we've been programmed to think that, like, we have a certain way to live our lives, that we don't really have to live our lives that way. Um, but one of our biggest things I know for myself has been, um, the whole money thing. Yeah. Because, yeah, there's still things that you need to get paid. And if you're starting off the business, it takes some time for it to generate. But but then it doesn't doesn't it doesn't. Yeah. Like it doesn't it doesn't like I feel like from one day to another you could have a multi-million dollar business because that's the power that, that we have right now in like social media, for example, somebody could go viral and then start getting, you know, brand deals and all of these things or just get paid by the actual platform they use, right? Whether it be TikTok, YouTube, whatever. Right. And it's it's incredibly difficult to it's been incredibly difficult for me to change my connection to money. And what I mean by that is, for example, if you have like things to pay and you were like, you get notifications right on your bills that are coming up and, um, if you have auto withdrawal, like what's going to happen or what's going to be coming up. And then you think of like, fuck, I have to get this paid. Like, all right, how am I going to get them? Like, there's this ghastly feeling that we are kind of, like, grown into. Yeah. Like, oh, it's your responsibility. Like, if you're not paying your shit, you're not being responsible, right? And then there's like, fuck. Well, it's important to be responsible. I gotta keep my credit score. I gotta keep my credit score, I guess, because that's the thing. Yeah. And I guess, like, you know, I have to be responsible with my shit. Like, I need a car to drive. I need a house, like all of these things. Right? And so that feeling of scarcity, of that feeling of like, well, I have to be responsible with my shit. That's the feeling that is the hardest I feel for me to transition out of and just know, like everything's going to be taken care of because at the same time, people may say, well, you just sound naive. Like, yeah, stupid. Like, are you delusional? Yeah. And I'm like, and then I'm like, yes, like. I'd rather be delusional and be in my truth and be doing what I enjoy doing than being stuck and like living the same day over and over, right? Like I'd rather be delusional. Yes. Yeah. I'd rather be in the mindset and the frequency of everything's working out for me. Yes. Right. But it's very it's very interesting, I should say. I think that's the word I'm going to go with instead of, like, difficult. Yeah. But I know we talk about it, obviously, you and I. Um, how has it been for you with the whole money? Like the whole money thing, for example? Like, because we also have our own beliefs. Right? Right. Like. So how has it been for you? Well, for me, it's been, um, kind of along the same realm. Right? But, uh, I realized that I was not taking what I do seriously as a business. Right. With with our YouTube channel, with our podcast, with my, uh, somatics. And sound healing of Las Vegas business. And I was still seeing it as, like, a little thing. I wasn't seeing it as, like, a serious thing that is going to be providing for me and my family. Right. Um, and I didn't and I was tying my, uh, my own personal value of who I am and what I am worth as a human to. The material things that I have. And so. So what I mean by that is like growing up, um, I wasn't really told, like, you're only worth this if you have all of these things. But it was demonstrated to me. Oh, and as children, we pick up what we see, not what we're told. Right? So what I saw as a child was, um, it was more so on my mom's side, where she would be very heavily focused on making money. She would hustle her ass off to make money. Um, she was always doing sales, so she would be like, she was a realtor. She would make a lot of money. She also had, like, side hustles and stuff, aside from that. And she would focus on getting the best cars, like, oh, she always had a new car, like every year. I remember, um, she was we were always moving from home to home because the home we had like, wasn't good enough, so we'd move or like, she wanted a bigger house. Right. And so never really like, I don't think I mean, I don't know if she was ever satisfied with where she was at. Yeah. So a lot of the things was is not too long ago that I was tying all of my success and all of my worth to what I have and what I don't have. Mhm. And so I didn't realize it until recently that that was kind of holding me back because of that, because that in a sense is not allowing me to be grateful for what we have. Right. Right. Yeah. And at the same time, um, it was kind of holding me back because internally in the body, the body also knows if you are open gratefully to receive more money, like it knows if you're in lack or if you're in abundance. And so I recognized in my body like the feelings that I was feeling of lack. And so, uh, right away after you and I, you know, I shared it with you and I was like, oh, man, I think this is what it what all of these things coming up in, in our, in my life, in our life are really coming up because this is how I feel. Yeah. And it was translating into me even not feeling worthy enough. And our relationship because and so it was just like all of these things that I was like, I'm just not worthy at all because you. Okay, so you weren't you were feeling that you weren't worthy at all. Because you were tying your worth to money. Mhm. Wow. The having a knot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like oh whatever amount is like it's like thinking like oh my worth is based off of how much fucking dollar bills I have in my bank account. Mhm. And I know it sounds crazy because um, there will be women that'll be like, that's crazy. Like, how do you tie your worth to that? I know that if I only have $10 in the bank account, like I'm still worth it, right? But it's like I get your your invitation. Um. But like, that's the way I thought, too, is the thing, like, I, I, I thought you weren't aware. Yeah. Like, I just wasn't aware, though, because I thought that too. Like, oh, even if I only have $500 in my bank account, like, I'm still worth more like, I'm, I'm, like, valuable. And there is no amount you can set on how much I'm worth. Right. But. The truth is that my body itself was not in that you were pretty much like lying to yourself. Yeah. At the. Oh. Got it. Okay. Damn. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. And I think we, I think we do like, we do that sometimes or a lot of the times as, as people like, we just well, this is the thing that I feel the whole like tying your worth to money is even when you feel like bad because you don't have, like, enough money to buy something you want. Mhm. Yeah. Like that feeling is also the tying money to the worth. Yeah. Like if you don't have, if you want a fucking whatever Louis Vuitton uh uh purse or bag or whatever like if you're not able to afford it, like sometimes it makes you feel like, oh fuck. Like I don't have that money to afford it. Right. Even though we all know that now they're made in China and I just. Yeah, you could get it for $1,000. $180. No, but like, it's true. Like it's all around that. Yeah. I remember, like, me, um, money was I, I don't well, I grew up in, in my parents always having a job. Well, my dad always having a job. And my mom, also, she, she worked, um, most of her life. And then we moved, like, they moved from LA to Hemet, which is like in then Empire in in California and, um. And that's when mom stopped working. But my dad always worked. But that was. But at the same thing. Like they never, um. I don't, I don't remember if it was like, oh, you have to be successful. I don't, I remember having a conversation with my parents of like, oh, you have to be successful. Like, yeah, or you have to have a good job or something to make good money. I don't think we ever had that conversation. Um, or if it was never a thing, I think, like, my parents just allowed us to live our lives. Yeah. Like the way whatever you want, whatever it was going to happen, happens, you know, kind of a thing. Um, but I did start working. I started working when I was literally legally able to work. Yeah. I'm still going to high school. I think I was like 15.5, which was at that time where you're able to take like a part time and then like certain amount of hours. And I started working then and I remember I started working. My sister was the one that we worked at Chuck E cheese. She worked at Chuck E cheese. And then she still knew, like the manager is there. So she was able to, like, get me in to work there. Um, and I remember I started working because my mom kept, like, saying, well, you have to pay for your, like, your cell phone bill. Yeah. Like, you have to pay for stuff, right? Yeah. Like what? I'm only 15, bro. I, I knew I shouldn't have had a quinceanera because after, you know, you you become a woman and you're responsible, and then you have to fucking go get a job at 15.5 because you just became a woman. That's not true. Yeah. Oh my God. And so, like, I remember starting to work and like, okay, well, now I make my little money and then, like, make, you know, pay. But ever since then, like, oh, okay. Well, then I have to have a job if I have to, you know, like, so, um, you kind of just start learning those things as you get older. Uh, for me at least, because I, I don't think there was much of, like, a financial education. Yeah. Coming from my parents or. Um, or school. I mean, obviously in school they don't teach you that, right? But like, you know, as a in, in, in my family, like, I just felt like it was just more of like, well, you have to have a job in order for you. Yep. That's it. Like, that was that was the whole thing, right? Yeah. There's no other way. No other option. No, there's no other option. There's no such thing as having your own business. Like there's no other option. Like you have to have a job. That's it. That's all you could do to make money. Yeah. Um, which is crazy to me, because it's like that was the extent of our financial knowledge. Um, but, you know, it goes to show, like, that's why you have these beliefs, though, because, you know, um, depending on your background, where you come from, like, that's the extent of your knowledge and what can be possible. Yeah. And it's totally it's understandable. Like, for me, like, I literally, um. Had like worked. Mhm. Been working. Right. Like having a job. Yeah. And even though even though I knew there was a different way like in my mind, in my heart, um, I always knew there was a different way. Okay. And it's it and um. And it is to do. I got introduced to, like, having your business, um, idea when I was, like, 20 in the financial services. Okay. Um, you know, like the recruiting and, like. Yeah, building a business. Building a business kind of thing. And I'm like, oh, wait a minute. What do you mean? You know, so that was like, mind blowing to me because it's like, oh, I never knew this before. I thought I just had to work and have a job, and that's how I made money. Yeah. Um, even though I like, I felt like I always felt different, even with school, for I always felt different in the society that we were in. Like, I, I always felt disconnected and anyway, like, nothing. Nothing major. Nothing. I always felt like I don't belong, man. I really I really did and I and I, I'm starting to understand that more and more right now. Mhm. How I always felt this way. Yeah. Um, ever since I was young, I remember always having a feeling of like, why are we just, you know, doing this all the time? Yeah. Like, like, why are my parents doing the same thing all the time and, like, why are we here? Like, yeah, there's just that. But, um. But yeah, I was gonna say I continue to work. I remember, like. And then when I was 19, I got a corporate job. I was at a call center. I was at, like, I was, but, you know, this is what's crazy is that I don't feel like I in the times that I started working, I at that time when I was younger, like, it wasn't about, like, making money. Um, I just knew I had to work. Yeah. But I had a lot of fun, like doing the things that I was doing. Yeah. So it didn't seem like a, you know, um. It didn't seem like a, I don't know, a labor thing. Yeah. Like, it didn't seem like work. It's like, oh, obviously I have to have a job to, like, pay my shit. Yeah. So. But I enjoyed the job that I was doing. I enjoyed the people that I worked with. I think that's it. I enjoyed the people that I worked with. Therefore it didn't seem like work. Uh, okay. So it wasn't really like. Oh, and then I also didn't have like the mindset of like, oh, I'm gonna climb the corporate ladder. Yeah. Because you were just there. I was just there like nothing. Like I didn't have no ambition or nothing. I'm just like, dude, let me go to work. And then on Thursdays we would go to the pool hall. On Fridays we would go to a bar like happy hour, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Um, but it was no ambition. Yeah. There was no inspiration, no anything. Yeah. Um, and then I worked at I worked at the call center for ten years or almost ten years, and I quit and and and that's. When I quit, something like shifted in me because it was like I was quitting everything that, um, I was quitting everything that I was told was the right thing to do. Okay. So, like, my family's like, what are you doing? Yeah. This is a perfect job. This is a good job for you. Yeah. You're going to have all the benefits. Like you're going to retire and you're going to have a 401 K. And I would see people there at the call center, like still taking phone calls like older people, right, that were there to retire eventually. And I'm like, I don't want to be sitting here for fucking 50 years. And like, you know what I mean? Like, what the hell? So I was I would think about that. Um, there's like a whole thing that happened in that job that led me to quit. Uh, and like my math, we switched. My manager had to retire. They were downsizing, so my manager had to retire. My manager was amazing. Like, she was so cool. And she was she was just very like people person. She was amazing. And she had to they like, had retired her. Um, and a new manager came in and she was. She was the. Craziest manager I have ever had in my life. She was crazy, manipulative. She was like a control freak. Narcissist. It was crazy. Yeah. Um. And that's why I quit. Like, that's what pushed me to quit. Because I'm like, I'm not gonna take her shit like I can't. Yeah. I don't care how much my 401 K is at 63. I'm like, I'm gonna cash it out, you know? Figure out. Yeah, I'm gonna fucking figure out what the fuck. And I fucking left, and I left and. And then I moved to Arizona. And then that's when I found the whole loan officer thing. And so. And then the whole loan officer thing is all about making money. Yeah. It's a fucking hustle. I need money. So you just go in. I just started going into this hustle mode and, like, hustle, hustle, hustle. And, like, working nonstop, like, Forever. But again, like in those times, um, when I was, when I became a loan officer, it was more about the money because I didn't care about the people. I really didn't. It wasn't. It wasn't my people. Right. We were, um. It was insane. It was actually very insane. It was like the Wolf of Wall Street. If you guys ever watched time, you had to work there and all the things. Yeah. Have you guys ever watched? I watched, watched The Wolf of Wall Street. That's how, like, being a loan officer in offices is like, who's got the next deal? And, like, your manager's on the phone with you, telling you what to tell the people to close them. It's insane. Um, but then it was about money, and then it was more like hustle mode and like, oh, fuck, I have to make thousands and millions of dollars so I could blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Um, but I never feel really connected to that hustle mentality. At that point. But I didn't. I did, I did at that point feel. I felt like I just had to do that. Yeah, I had to psych myself out. Because I was in that world. Right? Like, oh, I'm in the hustle mode, like blah blah blah, right? And you're just in that mode because that's what you feel you have to do, because that's the environment that you're in. But something inside of me was breaking, like I felt I was completely disconnected to who I truly am. Yeah. And I am not that hustle, you know. You know, Wolf of Wall Street kind of person. You're not with doing drugs in the restroom and shit. Like, I never did that. But there's other people that were doing that there. Um, I was smoking. I like smoking cigarettes. Like, I would smoke like a carton of cigarettes a day. Oh my God. Like, can you imagine that? Smoking. Like I was smoking. And you know what? Like, throughout my life, I've been on and off like smoking. But I think it's just because of the stress or kind of wanting to get away from it. And that's an excuse. So when I was a loan officer, I would smoke a lot. Like it was ridiculous. Um, I actually middle school, like, thinking about it. Oh, yeah. Because sometimes it was like at 6:00 in the morning when we would get to work, like, oh, let's go have a cigarette before we get on the phone. Start the day. Yeah. Like. And then now that I think about it, I'm like, fuck. Imagine smoking at 60. Like it? Yeah. Yeah. So that was crazy. But. I mean. Yeah, like. So it was disconnected from who I am, right? Yeah. It was thinking like, oh, I'm going to make money and I did. Yeah, it was there, but I didn't feel like I had done anything. Yeah. Valuable with my life. It's just like, okay, well, I'm just here to survive. Like it. I mean, at the time, I was obviously, like, going out to eat and, like, going to a bar. You know, the regular shit that we do. Yeah. Um, but it was never like there was never a connection to anything. Um, which kind of sucked. It does, uh, cause you kind of feel like, uh, so that I got burned out by that. Um, but, I mean, I'm just sharing these stories because these these are. I feel like throughout life, the life that I've lived, it's just you learn a lot of things. Like, look, now I'm learning a lot of things about myself and the things that happen when they did because of how I was feeling. Right. And at the end of the day, I feel like it was just not following my authenticity. It was just obviously following. What I was taught to do is have a job and work so you could pay the rent. Mhm. Um, and there's nothing wrong with that. Like I know people love what they do sometimes. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with that. I'm just sharing my story as to saying like I was just disconnected to myself. And I have been disconnected to myself for so long. Yeah. Like, I don't I don't think I've ever felt as connected to myself until today. Like, that's crazy to say. Yeah, because I'm about to be 40. Yeah. So it's like and it's in, in. And at the end of the day it all comes to. It all comes down to the money you have to make. Like my journey through all my life has been based off of the like money that I have to make to survive. Mhm. Um. And following. Resorting to having a job, like doing something that I don't really want to do because I feel like I have to do it in order to be financially okay. Yeah. And for you to be perceived a certain way. Yeah, exactly. Because right now if I tell people I'm like, if I tell people what I'm trying to do, um, people that are not open to the ideas, right. Uh, for the most part, you're going to get, like, silence. Yeah. Yeah. Because they don't know what to say. Yeah. Or or you're gonna get, like, um, you know, ridiculed. Ridiculed or, you know, made fun of or something. Yeah. You know, and I just feel like that's the part. Like, that's the part I feel for me, it's been. Like it's just been a crazy ride to transition right now, at this very moment. Um, I understand that money is energy. Um, and so following what you love to do and doing what you want to do there, money's just going to come to you because of that, right? Um, because you're exchanging that energy, right? Um, I feel like I'm missing some way of describing that, but I feel like money. Like we're exchanging the energy of doing with things that we love. The passion, helping people, being of service to people, um, for the money that we desire to have. Yeah. Well, one of the things I heard when it comes to, like, um, how you see your relationship with money is think of it as a lover and being in love with money as if it were a lover. Um, brings in more of it, right? The more you see it as like, oh, I don't want that type of guy or woman or whatever, then you're pushing it away. Right. And so is think of money as a lover and and think of it as you being in a relationship with it and like you being happy with it and coexisting with it all together. And that love that you're talking about, um, is what will attract it and bring it to you. Yeah. That was very beautifully. Yeah. I did all my life trajectory just to say, trying to say what you just said, but I was very well put. No, it is true, though, I, I, I agree with that. Yeah. Like treated as your lover. Like treated as you. It's, I guess, um. Share that energy of love and passion and like. And that's it. Yeah. Like as if you are one with money. Yeah. You know, you just how you like dance with your lover. Just how you like are with your lover. Be like that with money. And it will dance with you. Yeah. And I think, um, I heard that a while back, but it didn't really, truly, uh, I didn't truly take it in. Yeah. As the way I'm taking it in right now, as I'm saying it to you. Uh, because I, too, like you. And in in, uh, your story. Right? Of money and your career choices and how you feel felt disconnected at some point. For me, it was more so feeling like a failure because I didn't finish college. Mhm. Um, because I went to college and I dropped out, I think I would say maybe like a semester before I was going to get my associate's degree. And I remember I dropped out because I was going to pursue business. Like being in business for myself. But then again, I had never been taught business for myself, so I went into it not knowing anything about business and, uh, building a team of insurance agents. Right. And in that same company, learning everything about business and learning everything about people skills and all of the things that you need for business. Right? And not too long ago, we were me, and you were talking about how, you know, the completion or me not getting to the place I wanted to get to in that specific, uh, time of my life led me to where I am now. Yeah. Uh, like, you're not reaching reaching the level in that business because of whatever happened. Mhm. Like led you to not be in that business anymore. Right. It led me to leave and it led me to so much more. And letting me do my freedom. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. Because that, that kind of was a pedestal. The step, I guess. Um. The trajectory to where you are now. Yeah. Is what kind of started it. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Yeah. That's crazy. And during that same time though, like, I was also disconnected for myself. I was just in hustle mode, like out from morning till night. I was pregnant with my first kid out hustling and, like, walking 2 or 3 miles a day to get prospects and get potential clients and all of the things right. And it's like, oh, shoot, I did all of that. Yeah. In those moments, did you ever feel exhausted? Like, did you ever like, think like, why am I doing this? No, because you're told, like, my brain was wired to be like, no rest until you get what you want. Like until you achieve the goals. You have a hustle mode. Hustle mode? Like you are not permitted to rest. Yeah that's true. So it's like. And that's how it was being a loan officer. Yeah, same exact thing. It's like you're not permitted to rest until you hit your quota. Right. And so but even once you hit your quota, like you're still pushed to keep going more and you month a new month starts. Yeah. You start from zero again. It's like a fucking hamster. Yeah. So I see so many people stuck in this like hustle mentality. And don't get me wrong, like you do need a certain amount of hustle, right? But there is there is a fine line between like hustling on autopilot where you're just like on go, go, go now because you don't know how to stop. Because if you stop, you feel like you're worthless or you ain't worth shit. Pretty much, if you decide to lay on the couch on a set. Yeah. And I think it's a difference though, because it's like an in a hustle mentality. Like, um, I remember like when I was a loan officer, like I was doing it because I felt like I had to. And like you said, you were on autopilot, and you just you you were on survival mode, and I was just, like, doing it, right? Yeah. And then there is a hustle on the other side of things. Yeah. Like what we're doing right now. Yeah, we're we're doing things that we actually like to do and sometimes, like, you know, we spend whatever amount of times, like whatever amount of time doing the things. Yeah. Um, editing and like the like. Yeah. Thinking about other things, working on other projects and working on other things. And that's also a hustle, right. But in a different but passionate about what you're doing. Yes. It's a different form of hustle, right? Yeah. And I think like, um, it's so like for me, I went through that journey. Right. And now I'm where I'm at now. Um, I went back to corporate after I did the insurance thing, and I went back to corporate, uh, in mortgages and, um, did, like, different things there. And then I was let go. They're like, they eliminated my position, and then I was put into this, like, I landed into this. And what I do now. Yeah. Right. And sound healing. My sound healing. And. It has taken me a good six months since the time I was let go to. Now it's been six months. Uh, why does it feel like it's been longer? Yeah, it feels like way longer. I'm like, I have changed into, like, ten different Brendan's. I think it's been like ten years. Yeah, it's, you know, it was just last October. That's cool. Yeah. So since last October to now, it's been a good six months where there has been a lot of, uh, like reprogramming of the things that I thought I had worked through already, like my worth to money, like how I see myself in business, like actually seeing what I'm doing as my business, respecting it as such. And in those last six months, realizing that I was not truly feeling the way I thought I was feeling. Yeah. So I was psyching myself out in my head, but in my body and my nervous system, it knew better. And it was like, uh oh, girl. Yeah, you still got to work through this. Right. So and so I, uh. So now that's what I began doing, is because I know how to rewire myself. I know how to rewire my subconscious mind to, like, believe a certain thing. Yeah. But now I'm doing it for my body, for my nervous system. Because that's where it truly matters, right? Because the moment somebody says, oh, I heard that you're doing this breathwork and sound healing, I would feel like, oh, shoot. Like, don't ask me about what I'm doing. Right. Yeah. And I remember this, like, you were embarrassed. I was embarrassed, yeah. And I remember this feeling when I was doing insurance. I had that same feeling, so I never had full ownership of what I was doing at that point in my life either. Crazy. Yeah, I was kind of like, I don't want to talk about what I do. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you were also embarrassed because of the stigma around whatever. Yeah. And so that still I still was carrying that. And now with what I'm doing now in my business, I wasn't taking full ownership of what I was doing. And so now that I acknowledge that, I'm like, all right, let's work through this little body. Let's get this over with. Like it's game over. Once you are aware enough and you realize, like, oh, shoot, I'm feeling this. Like, I don't want people to know what I'm doing. Oh. Once you're aware of that feeling is the moment you can actually change. Or I should say upgrade it. Upgrade it? Yeah. Upgrade it to fully embodying like, no, this is who I am now. Yeah. And I think that's the that's the transition or that's where we're like we're we're kind of crossing the bridge. Yeah. Like kind of almost over the bridge. Um, and I think we're both kind of they're like the same place right now with our belief and our reprogramming of our money beliefs and our scarcity mindset, or our survival mode or our hustle mentality. Like all of those things that we've been programmed from our previous lives. Yeah, that we've lived or our previous experiences within this lifetime that we've lived. We're finally like reprogramming, reprogramming ourselves to get over that bridge and know that we are taking care of that money is essentially an exchange of energy. And we're here to be of service to others, and we're here to share our stories. And we're we're here to help others in the way that we have been connected to ourselves and in our way that we have helped ourselves. Right. And. And that's like and that's where the transition is, like moving from all of those. And it's it is true. You have to release the emotions that you have in your nervous system of like feeling a certain way when you get a notification that a bill is going to get auto pay or whatever, and then you feel like, fuck, I'm not gonna I don't have that money in my account. Right. But that feeling that you get of nervousness or like a scarcity or survival, like you have to transmute that into everything's going to work out for me. Anything is. Everything's going to work out for me. And I know it's I know for some, for some is very hard to accept because it is a big shift in in how we were, how we have been told that you have to live. Mhm. We've been told we have to live a certain way and money can only come a certain way. Money could come in any way. Yeah, like we don't even know. We don't even know. And I feel like the moment that you make the transition of knowing that money is just an exchange of energy and whatever energy and frequency you're putting out in the world is what you're going to be receiving back. Right. And once you understand that, once you completely embody that, you understand that you're taking care of and you are free to do whatever your little heart desires. Mhm. Yeah. Like you're free to do that. Yeah. No matter what anybody has said. They're told you you're programming. There's ways to reprogram yourself and there's ways to transition out of that survival mode into a embodied. Everything is working out for me. Yes. Everything is always working out for me. Right? And you, once you get to that place and. And you live in that. You're you're you're like free, like you're flowing. You flow with life. You flow with whatever comes your way. You don't see. You no longer see. Like, um, getting a flat tire as this big ordeal, right? It's like you see it as like. Oh, okay. Yeah. Let me just change it. Yeah. And it's kind of like going back to what you were saying about, like, sometimes business takes a bit to take off. Yeah. What takes a bit is us. Yes. Is the human part of it. Yeah. Because the moment we, like you said, we're crossing that bridge. Like we're literally about to step off the bridge. Yeah, we're almost there. Right the moment you cross the bridge is the moment that your business will take off. Yes. And what I mean by crossing the bridge is like how Nancy was saying is do the rewiring, the subconscious reprogramming of your mind and at the same time, do the body work, the nervous system work to feel safe to receive more, right. Because a lot of the times it's us that is stopping the blow up to happen. And so I recognize for me that I was the one stopping my blow up because I've told you for a long time that I know that I'm going to blow up. Yeah, like I'm going to be huge. And but I was stopping myself. Right. And but it's just like. But it's because you know what you want. Yeah. But you're, you're programming and you're you're programming and your subconsciousness doesn't let you get fully there. Right. Because you're still living in whatever. You're still living in whatever program and you're whatever programming that you grew up with, your environment and all of those things. You're still living in that, but you know that you want bigger. Yes. Right. So, you know, you want bigger. You know you want this big life. And you know, you want to be, um, you just know what you want to have. You you want to meet millions of people. You want to help millions of people, and you know that. You want that. And it's working through the reprogramming, right? Because the moment that you embody that that's already happening is the moment that it starts to happen. Yeah. Exactly. And and I want to I want to point out that when you when you said it's because of your programming. It's what? For me, what that stands for is think of it like your family telling you like, oh, you're not good at that. Or like your fear of being seen for fear of being heard. You never had anybody here, you see, you listen to you growing up, right? So now that trends that that turns into you being scared to show up in the world, to put yourself out there, to speak to whatever it is. Right. It it it becomes that in our adult life. And so that programming is really all we have to reprogram. Yeah. When we do go into pursuing that life that we know we are worthy and deserving of because like you said, like, you know, you want bigger, you know you want more, and you have this internal knowledge that you know you deserve more. But then because of all of the crap you're like, I, I don't I can't get what I deserve. Yeah. So you go back. Yeah. Yeah. And then you go back. Yeah. One of the things that, um, one of the things that I. And I shared this with you is I was scared of not having money coming in to pay our stuff. And so I was thinking like, oh, let me just go back to work and then whatever, like, still have, you know, reliable income. And as we work through like, getting these things, you know, on the road or getting these things, you know, to where we want them to be. Right. And I realized that I was still trying to, like, still stick to what I the familiar. Yeah. I was still kind of like I was in between both worlds. Right. And I understand that. You can't live. You can't fully live the life that you want to live. If you're still stuck to your familiar like your comfort, your comfort zone. Yeah, you you have to completely let go. So I'm I surrendered. Yeah. In one of my meditations, I'm like, that is no longer my life. Mhm. I that is not something I even want to do. Yeah. I was just going to do it because I felt like I had to. And that was going back to my program, you know having to have the job. Um, but you have to fully embody the new life that you want to have in order for it to start happening. And I feel like that's where, like, we are fully embodying who we are now. Who are we? We have this podcast. We. You are a sound healer. You're, um, a breathwork facilitator. And we want to share these different techniques with the world to in hopes of helping people also understand that they are more than what their circumstances were. They are more than what they were programmed to be in life. Um. And don't give me one. Like I there's some people that are okay and comfortable with their lives and happy and stuff, and that's completely fine. Yeah, but there's a lot of people suffering. Yeah, there's a lot of people that are suffering that are, um, currently, like, not knowing where to start, not knowing. They know that there's they want more, but they just don't know how to start. And I feel like that's where we want to come in and be like, hey, I went through the same thing. These are the things that help me, right? Let's fucking go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's it. Yeah. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Once again, guys, thank you for listening. If you gain something or feel inclined to share this episode, please do so. Go to our Instagram Deep Dive In podcast that's dive in the Ivy end and connect with us there. Comment share, post. We appreciate the support so much and we will catch you on the next one.